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Following the recent covered call position I undertook in Apple shares, noticing the abysmal day today, I sold/bought Google puts for a Credit Spread position to take advantage of the rather high prices of options these days. With Google plummeting to new recent lows, I ventured into a position which requires additional substantial losses of close to 20% down within the next month to occur in order to lose money. If Google improves or stays the same, I pocket close to $800. Here's how it works:

Google was around $292 at the time of the trade.


I sold a GOOG 250 Put Dec expiry for 11.12


I bought a GOOG 200 Put Dec expiry for 3.4



This creates the "credit spread".

By December, as long as Google closes above $250/share, I keep the difference between the two positions. If Google drops below $250, I have to pay the difference at expiry to close out the position (but I keep the $770 premium spread, so really, shares must drop to below $243 to lose a dollar). If Google goes bankrupt (as unlikely as it sounds, I don't risk $25,000 to save $340), my max loss is capped at the difference of 5K-770 = $4300.

This is a lot of money and shouldn't be taken lightly. But at the same time, drastic times call for drastic measures and with the markets off over 40% in the US and close to 80% internationally, it's entirely plausible that markets are oversold and at a minimum, we'll see some stability in the coming weeks. We know unemployment is set to rise further and we've been in recession for some time now. The market has priced that in. But are we going to revert to 1990's share prices?

To new investors; not a trade for you. Research options thoroughly and start with covered calls if anything. To experienced options traders, what are your thoughts and what trades are you making right now?

UPDATE: In December, Google closed above the $250 strike, so the options expired worthless. Full update here.

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Jae Jun said... @ November 13, 2008 2:01 AM

With the market as it is, I am very cautious and careful with what I buy. Lately, Ive focused on arbitrage to limit my losses as the companies under mergers don't lose much value even in this volatility.

But I also think options would be a good way to capitalise on this. Especially with prices being so cheap, I'm looking into LEAPS.

I don't have any options experience yet, so these posts are interesting.

TheNightTrader said... @ November 14, 2008 1:02 AM

I have found long strangles to be a very effective tool to safely profit with options in volatile markets. I can be wrong on the direction of a stock every time and still make a good return. However, when the markets don't move in a consistent direction my trades tend to drag out. I still end up profitable most of the time, it just takes months instead of weeks or days.

I've been starting to think about other strategies I could start using to supplement strangles. Bull Put and Bear Call spreads have interested me, as well as combining them for an Iron Condor. Have you been trading spreads successfully for a while?

Super Saver said... @ November 20, 2008 3:41 PM

Now that Google is around $265, would you be able to give an update on how you are thinking about this put spread? Are you still planning to hold to expiration? Thanks for considering these questions.

Everyday Finance said... @ November 20, 2008 8:54 PM

Hi Night Trader, yes, I've been using spreads for a while, strangles like you mention too...but I can't claim total success!

Super Saver,
Now would actually be a bad time for me to close the position. See, it's still out the money, so as long as Google stays above $250, I'm fine. If I tried to close out the position now, I'm going to pay quite a bit of money, plus the time premium, plus the market volatility is skyrocketing. If anything, I'll let this thing run and if need be, close it out just prior to expiry so I'm not buying back time premium.

So, in short, I'm technically out of trouble for another few % down. After another 10%+ down week, I don't know how many of these are reasonable until retail investors come back in saying this market's just too oversold. I don't have much faith in the institutional investors at this point since they're still de-levering to meet cash/margin/redemption requirements.

Super Saver said... @ November 21, 2008 11:07 AM

Everyday Finance,

Thanks for responding to my questions.

With the current volatility, it's really hard to estimate where the market will be in a month. Makes sense to wait for the market to settle and the volatility to decrease.

Good luck on your Google options spread.

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